recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
I don't know that it would actually dawn on her, that she is under mind control, or that there is even a possibility of that even existing. She lept at the chance to put on her new personality. I would like to remind her how far from reality she has gone.
I have made many mistakes in this process. Thanks for your insights. I'm going to keep quiet for now, and continue communicating with my mother and the rest of the family, as if we are all normal people.
recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
I haven't sent anything yet.
I agree that a face-to-face meeting would be a better way to approach her, but I don't think that can happen. This is really hard to arrange, because she lives in another town. If I knew when she was going to be at my mom's house, I could just show up coincidentally. When this has happened before, they rush out the door before I even get out of my car. They make quite a spectacle about it, and then I go in with my kids, and talk to my parents like everything is normal.
I forgive them. Somebody needs to act rational in this situation.
I like the points you all have made. I am still leaning toward reaching out to her once more, but I will sleep on it. I know I won't change her behavior or mindset, but I would like to make her think.
recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
Recently, I received this email from my JW sister:
While I appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.
Our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.
At this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, I think it would be best if we didn't communicate.
I hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.
I sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me. I don't know if she will open another email from me, or if I would be better to send a card in the mail. Here is what I am thinking of saying to her:
Dear ,
I can't stop thinking about that last email you sent to me. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that you did not write those words to me. That is not my sister (name) talking, and I know it is not directed at me. I am the sister who has loved you since you were born. I have always found you to be a reasonable and logical person, so I am confused by this sudden inconsistency.
This question is for the real (name): What is causing you this fear? What have I done to deserve this unkind reaction?
This response you sent makes no sense, based on prior encounters I have had with you.
Try to see this from my perspective. My sister is cutting me off, for reaching out with generosity? Help me understand this cruel reaction.
Is this a Jehovah's Witness policy, or is it something personal between us? I don't get it, and am still interested in making peace.
Any advice you have is appreciated. I am not good at being concise with my words.
jehovahs witnesses have long said that christendom has apostasised itself from the true religion after the apostles left the scene , and by the 3rd /4th century the weeds had taken over .. however they have always taken a softer stand with christendoms members because thats where their potential members would come from , and for decades this proved to be true.
is this still the case ?
or has their been a shift by witnesses against family members who are of a different faith .. a baptised witness who leaves the religion is cut off , shunned by family members unless they return to the fold.. depending on the time one has been a witness , how strong they are as members , or how indoctrinated they are does tend to vary with individuals.. yet the organization has strongly come out against apostates especially among their own , do you see a trend against family members who are christian though not jw`s ?.
They want it both ways. I've wondered the same thing myself, as a never-JW, who is now been ex-communicated by my sister for no valid reason.
She has made the statement, "We have a hard time explaining things to our kids." -- "Like what?" -- "You know, idolatry. Apostasy." -- "Can you give me an example?" -- silence.
I am left wondering if she is having a hard time explaining why we sings songs about Jesus, go to church and do things for the homeless. My kids are happy and playful, even though their JW cousins are obviously being told we are all going to die very soon.
Instead of trying to reach us, they are shunning us and leaving us to die at Armageddon.
My mom is caught between it all, and there are signs she is awake but feeling trapped.
well i haven't been here in a long old while, but was browsing around youtube and stumbled across a channel called jehovah's witnesses downloads which appears to be an official cache of propaganda uploaded by the borganization.
jeezus christ!
are their any worse actors than jws in those smarmy dramas?
Anything that exposes JW's to the evil internet, is a good thing.
from the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).
un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.
that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.
"Peace and Security!"
would love to hear comments on what is being said on the paragraph which states that if the wt demands you drink the kool aid, you should do it - even if you don't understand why!.
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look forward to any replies..
I sent a quote of this paragraph to both my parents, just after Cedar posted an article about it on jwsurvey.
My father has not responded to a single email in over a year.
My mom's response? "Don't worry, we won't drink the Kool-Aid..."
My reply: "What will you do? Maybe you should discuss with Dad, what your limits are in this situation. It sounds like a threat to me."
(no reply)
i have been in another phase of jw encounters lately.
it is almost like the twilight zone... in the last 3 days, i have run into a jw every single day.
i saw my bible teacher, her daughter, and another acquaintance from the kingdom hall we attended.
I have been in another phase of JW encounters lately. It is almost like the Twilight Zone... In the last 3 days, I have run into a JW every single day.
I saw my Bible teacher, her daughter, and another acquaintance from the Kingdom Hall we attended. I had friendly conversations with each of them, and while it was nice to see that the word doesn't seem to be spreading that I am a danger to them (as part of Satan's army), I feel I have failed each of them.
I would really be interested in striking up a conversation about the current WT (November 2013) magazine with a JW, in passing.
Does anyone have any ideas for a casual question that could be posed to a JW in passing?
in this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".
it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.
go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..
BU2B: "Even if we die while being obedient, at least we will get a resurection for being faithful. Jehovah can reverse the damage" :(
Wow. Very sad and scary. Does she have a limit, as to what she would not do in order to remain obedient?
I asked my parents about this paragraph in the November Watchtower, and got the response: "Don't worry, we won't drink the Kool-Aid."
I followed up with the question, "What would you do? You might want to discuss with Dad, what your limits are in this scenario."
(Of course, this question was posed a few months ago... they might have since decided they should drink the Kool-Aid... If that is what Jehovah wants them to do...)
he was a tenant of ours in 2009 on a visa, but was unaware of all the rules,such as checking in with any new address.
after some time, although hardworking, he lost his job and began getting behind in rent.
he promised to keep paying as much as he could.
label licker, We always ask for referrals. They each have a specialty. There has to be someone who paints, unless they all have unpainted houses! :)
